From what I have read so far, which is not much, I can already tell that the book is different than the movie based on it. It seems as though Adams is creating a humorous ramble about things, like how the people on this planet are unhappy,then he goes on to talk of how money was of concern. Then he mentions digital watches, and then there is a paragraph or two about how some people think our evolution was a mistake. Adams makes things that shouldn't be funny or aren't funny,funny.
Yeah totally true, it does seem like a big rant. But it's a humorous rant about random facts of the world the people live in. But what I've found funnier most of all would be Dent's rant about jumping all over the people when he had his way with them after they demolished his house. Oh and also when Ford tells Mr. Prosser to stay at the spot Dent was so they could go to a pub for like 30 minutes. I kept laughing over that during MCAS =x
Yeah the whole Arthur rant was pretty funny. If you thought that was funny wait until later on when Arthur and Ford experience more odd events (the ranting gets funnier). Another character that I found funny was Marvin. He makes almost eveything into something depressing. It vastly amuses me.
wow even the aliens that have come to demolish Earth are funny. "there's no point being all surprised about it all the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display in your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for fifty of your Earth years....it's far too late to start making a fuss about it." Just like the plans to demolish Dent's house.
I found so many funny moments in the book. Many of the funny moments is in the reactions of the characters and contasts between Perfect's reactions and Dent's reaction. I found it really funny when Dent is just ranting around because he lost Earth and Perfect's reaction is just not to panic.
Arthur's reaction to earth's end is funny. I especially liked when Arthur realized that "There is no longer any such thing as a McDonald's hamburger"(61). What is even funnier is that at that one thought, he passes out. The fact that his family is gone doesnt do anything to him, but McDonald's hamburger being nonexistent makes him pass out.
The Vogons do have a lot of issues. The idea of them having the 3rd worst poems in the universe is major issue. Not only that, "they've got as much sex appeal as a road accident." By the way is there anyone else that is having problems posting comments?
Arthur's reactions does make events a lot funnier. Ford is also very amusing. The definition under Earth made me laugh out loud. "Harmless" But in the new revised issue it was "Mostly Harmless" Ford adding that there wasn't much capacity in the Hitchhiker's Guild to the Galaxy to put anymore than that. And no i haven't had trouble with posting.
It is interesting to see how Adams throws in social commentary about the Earth and human culture. The commentary itself is indeed ironically humorous in that it is being observed from space and that it is of a planet and a people which have been destroyed. The narrative voice in the story is quite sarcastic, which gives it a humorous quality. Its lack of sensitivity regarding the destroyed people of Earth gives it further humor. Taking into consideration that an entire planet was just destroyed with billions being killed, seems to be a light weight on all but Arthur. The unearthly beings seem to look upon humans as though they are an inferior race. This sort of insensitivity gives the voice further humor. By taking such serious matters with such a light weight, Adams injects a great ammount of ironic humor into the story.
I would like to see if we can draw parallels between other-worldly aspects of the book, such as Adams's description of President Zaphod Beeblebrox and the Earth’s political atmosphere. Although it is entirely set in places except the Earth, once the Earth is destroyed, Adams, of course, must have had something more than his imagination to found his take on the greater universe. It would reason that he has based his galaxy on what would be a microcosm of it: Earth. It does not seem far-fetched to think that Adams exaggerated that which one can find on Earth, while adding some imaginative aspects to his galaxy. Although Beeblebrox is obviously an eccentric exaggeration, might he have been founded on earthbound figures?
It is interesting to think that Adams based Zaphod Beeblebrox on as cicero put it "earthbound figures". Perhaps, Adams did in fact base Beeeblebrox on important figures of earth and his exaggeration of the character is to simply show the reader that those Beeblebrox is based upon were, in themselves, eccentric. Maybe Adams is trying to display that most historical figures of earth have been so determined and set in their ways that their seriousness becomes eccentric. That something they think is so important that it becomes silly and pointless.
yes and it's also interesting to see on what topics Adams has placed in the book. For example Marvin the depressed robot. We all know that depression isn't a funny subject, or should be spoken of light heartedly but Adams twists that concept to make it more entertaining so we as the readers laugh or giggle at how a depressed robot views the world.
Well, it does seem that laughing at something like a persons depression is cruel. In my opinion, if the person is seriously depressed about something then it is not cool to laugh at them. Then again this is the real world and we do not always follow rules and regulations so...its not necessarily right to laug at other peoples pain, but we do it anyway.
As to laughing at a robots depression...this goes back to the whole eccentric thing i mentioned earlier, only now it applies to Marvin. Like I commented before, depression is not something to laugh at. Although a robot that is depressed IS funny because no one has ever heard of a depressed robot and if they have they need to seek medical attention. Adams probably did this to follow with his odd sense of humor that makes things that we feel are important, unimportant or bizarre.
While reading I've noticed that these other galaxy's that Adams speaks about or the Hitchhiker's guide speaks about is in a way modeled after how planet Earth in like in real life and how it was in the book. Advancements of cooperations controls how society runs. For example the cooperations that manufacture certain items run things in the background. And this relates to certain cases in real life where different cooperations run our every day lives, from computer use and other activities we do daily.
Back to laughing about someone's depression, I believe it is something that cannot be done to a person. However, I do find it funny when Marvin says "Do you want me to sit in a corner and rust, or just fall apart where I'm standing?" I guess it is jus the irony of robots having emotions like depression that makes it funny.
Andy has a good point, that it is the irony of what we, as human earthlings, would never expect to see; a robot, not only with emotions, but with emotions so strong that he is clinicly depressed. Depression too, the type from which Marvin suffers, is a very human thing and would not be expected from a piece of machienery, least of all before 1980, when the Guide was first coppywritten, when computers were in their infancy. On that note, another remarkable thing about Adams galaxy is how he predicted so much about technology that was quite far from existance. The novel's Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy seems concievable and not so distant today, like it could be a realistic contraption.
I guess the irony can create humor whenever a robot shows emotion. For example, when the door opens and says that it is extremely happy for just walking though it. I wonder if more humor will come out later on in the book by giving objects humanly emotions.
yes i agree on that notion that by Adams giving objects human emotion that we find it amusing. Probably only because we're not used to having such objects are doors or robots be given emotion in real life. So we as the readers wouldn't expect such emotion that a door would possibly have for you or I to open and close it. The human like qualities that are given to objects in the book for example a space ship annoy the characters (Zaphon) because they're too used to that way of living, we find it interesting while in their case they find just plan annoying. Although after a while i'd be pretty irritated myself.
We have seen a lot of items that made the book funny. However, I worry more about the book's deeper meaning. First off, I noticed the characters different personalities. I wonder, what is each of personality's deeper meaning? Why does Marvin have depressed and emotional personality, or how does other characters contibute, other than making the book funny.
Well, from what I remember, Marvin was programmed by the company that made him to have human emotions. Since he was a prototype he must have malfunctioned and got stuck on depressed.
Well, I don't mean litteraly why Marvin is depressed. I mean why did Adams made the characters they way they are? Besides adding humor, what else is created by giving the certain personallity they have?
Ah, well I'm not very sure why he does. Maybe the contrast in personalities deals with how people react toward different views. By giving each character a different personality Adams could be giving the reader different ways to view topics and ideas brought up in the book. Or I could be entirely wrong.
From what I've gathered from the entire book thus far would be that Adams is trying to say that we shouldn't dwell upon the great and unanswerable question in life. Like "what is the meaning of life" and "is there more out there?" And that we should just enjoy life while we can. And my example of this being implied would be when Arthur is talking with Slartibartfast about how the Earth was destroyed and "Ten million years of planning and work gone..."
"You know," said Arthur thoughtfully, "all this explains a lot of things. All through my life I've had this strange unaccountable feeling that something was going on in the worth, something big, even sinister, and no one would tell me what it was."
"No," said the old man, that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that."
"Everyone?" said Arthur. "Well, if everyone has that perhaps it means something! Perhaps somewhere outside the Universe we know..."
"Maybe. Who cares?" said Slartibartfast
This paranoia that everyone receives in the universe possibly could mean something but who cares? why dwell on the fact that we all receive a constant paranoia. Live life to the fullest in a way. As Zaphod does.
Hey guys, I'm not sure if any of you come on the site anymore but...when are we going to work on the project thing? I leave Wednesday morning for the band trip so that leaves tomorrow and next monday. Any suggestions?
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From what I have read so far, which is not much, I can already tell that the book is different than the movie based on it. It seems as though Adams is creating a humorous ramble about things, like how the people on this planet are unhappy,then he goes on to talk of how money was of concern. Then he mentions digital watches, and then there is a paragraph or two about how some people think our evolution was a mistake. Adams makes things that shouldn't be funny or aren't funny,funny.
Yeah totally true, it does seem like a big rant. But it's a humorous rant about random facts of the world the people live in. But what I've found funnier most of all would be Dent's rant about jumping all over the people when he had his way with them after they demolished his house. Oh and also when Ford tells Mr. Prosser to stay at the spot Dent was so they could go to a pub for like 30 minutes. I kept laughing over that during MCAS =x
Yeah the whole Arthur rant was pretty funny. If you thought that was funny wait until later on when Arthur and Ford experience more odd events (the ranting gets funnier). Another character that I found funny was Marvin. He makes almost eveything into something depressing. It vastly amuses me.
wow even the aliens that have come to demolish Earth are funny. "there's no point being all surprised about it all the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display in your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for fifty of your Earth years....it's far too late to start making a fuss about it." Just like the plans to demolish Dent's house.
Vogon's sure do have issues, don't they?
I found so many funny moments in the book. Many of the funny moments is in the reactions of the characters and contasts between Perfect's reactions and Dent's reaction. I found it really funny when Dent is just ranting around because he lost Earth and Perfect's reaction is just not to panic.
Arthur's reaction to earth's end is funny. I especially liked when Arthur realized that "There is no longer any such thing as a McDonald's hamburger"(61). What is even funnier is that at that one thought, he passes out. The fact that his family is gone doesnt do anything to him, but McDonald's hamburger being nonexistent makes him pass out.
The Vogons do have a lot of issues. The idea of them having the 3rd worst poems in the universe is major issue. Not only that, "they've got as much sex appeal as a road accident." By the way is there anyone else that is having problems posting comments?
Arthur's reactions does make events a lot funnier. Ford is also very amusing. The definition under Earth made me laugh out loud. "Harmless" But in the new revised issue it was "Mostly Harmless" Ford adding that there wasn't much capacity in the Hitchhiker's Guild to the Galaxy to put anymore than that. And no i haven't had trouble with posting.
Yah I have had trouble posting comments.
It is interesting to see how Adams throws in social commentary about the Earth and human culture. The commentary itself is indeed ironically humorous in that it is being observed from space and that it is of a planet and a people which have been destroyed.
The narrative voice in the story is quite sarcastic, which gives it a humorous quality. Its lack of sensitivity regarding the destroyed people of Earth gives it further humor. Taking into consideration that an entire planet was just destroyed with billions being killed, seems to be a light weight on all but Arthur. The unearthly beings seem to look upon humans as though they are an inferior race. This sort of insensitivity gives the voice further humor. By taking such serious matters with such a light weight, Adams injects a great ammount of ironic humor into the story.
I would like to see if we can draw parallels between other-worldly aspects of the book, such as Adams's description of President Zaphod Beeblebrox and the Earth’s political atmosphere. Although it is entirely set in places except the Earth, once the Earth is destroyed, Adams, of course, must have had something more than his imagination to found his take on the greater universe. It would reason that he has based his galaxy on what would be a microcosm of it: Earth. It does not seem far-fetched to think that Adams exaggerated that which one can find on Earth, while adding some imaginative aspects to his galaxy. Although Beeblebrox is obviously an eccentric exaggeration, might he have been founded on earthbound figures?
It is interesting to think that Adams based Zaphod Beeblebrox on as cicero put it "earthbound figures". Perhaps, Adams did in fact base Beeeblebrox on important figures of earth and his exaggeration of the character is to simply show the reader that those Beeblebrox is based upon were, in themselves, eccentric. Maybe Adams is trying to display that most historical figures of earth have been so determined and set in their ways that their seriousness becomes eccentric. That something they think is so important that it becomes silly and pointless.
yes and it's also interesting to see on what topics Adams has placed in the book. For example Marvin the depressed robot. We all know that depression isn't a funny subject, or should be spoken of light heartedly but Adams twists that concept to make it more entertaining so we as the readers laugh or giggle at how a depressed robot views the world.
another comment i would like to add would be does laughing at someone's depression (especially a robots) make us bad people?
Well, it does seem that laughing at something like a persons depression is cruel. In my opinion, if the person is seriously depressed about something then it is not cool to laugh at them. Then again this is the real world and we do not always follow rules and regulations so...its not necessarily right to laug at other peoples pain, but we do it anyway.
sorry, forgot an h on laugh.
As to laughing at a robots depression...this goes back to the whole eccentric thing i mentioned earlier, only now it applies to Marvin. Like I commented before, depression is not something to laugh at. Although a robot that is depressed IS funny because no one has ever heard of a depressed robot and if they have they need to seek medical attention. Adams probably did this to follow with his odd sense of humor that makes things that we feel are important, unimportant or bizarre.
While reading I've noticed that these other galaxy's that Adams speaks about or the Hitchhiker's guide speaks about is in a way modeled after how planet Earth in like in real life and how it was in the book. Advancements of cooperations controls how society runs. For example the cooperations that manufacture certain items run things in the background. And this relates to certain cases in real life where different cooperations run our every day lives, from computer use and other activities we do daily.
Back to laughing about someone's depression, I believe it is something that cannot be done to a person. However, I do find it funny when Marvin says "Do you want me to sit in a corner and rust, or just fall apart where I'm standing?" I guess it is jus the irony of robots having emotions like depression that makes it funny.
Andy has a good point, that it is the irony of what we, as human earthlings, would never expect to see; a robot, not only with emotions, but with emotions so strong that he is clinicly depressed. Depression too, the type from which Marvin suffers, is a very human thing and would not be expected from a piece of machienery, least of all before 1980, when the Guide was first coppywritten, when computers were in their infancy. On that note, another remarkable thing about Adams galaxy is how he predicted so much about technology that was quite far from existance. The novel's Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy seems concievable and not so distant today, like it could be a realistic contraption.
I guess the irony can create humor whenever a robot shows emotion. For example, when the door opens and says that it is extremely happy for just walking though it. I wonder if more humor will come out later on in the book by giving objects humanly emotions.
yes i agree on that notion that by Adams giving objects human emotion that we find it amusing. Probably only because we're not used to having such objects are doors or robots be given emotion in real life. So we as the readers wouldn't expect such emotion that a door would possibly have for you or I to open and close it. The human like qualities that are given to objects in the book for example a space ship annoy the characters (Zaphon) because they're too used to that way of living, we find it interesting while in their case they find just plan annoying. Although after a while i'd be pretty irritated myself.
We have seen a lot of items that made the book funny. However, I worry more about the book's deeper meaning. First off, I noticed the characters different personalities.
I wonder, what is each of personality's deeper meaning? Why does Marvin have depressed and emotional personality, or how does other characters contibute, other than making the book funny.
Well, from what I remember, Marvin was programmed by the company that made him to have human emotions. Since he was a prototype he must have malfunctioned and got stuck on depressed.
Well, I don't mean litteraly why Marvin is depressed. I mean why did Adams made the characters they way they are? Besides adding humor, what else is created by giving the certain personallity they have?
Ah, well I'm not very sure why he does. Maybe the contrast in personalities deals with how people react toward different views. By giving each character a different personality Adams could be giving the reader different ways to view topics and ideas brought up in the book. Or I could be entirely wrong.
From what I've gathered from the entire book thus far would be that Adams is trying to say that we shouldn't dwell upon the great and unanswerable question in life. Like "what is the meaning of life" and "is there more out there?" And that we should just enjoy life while we can. And my example of this being implied would be when Arthur is talking with Slartibartfast about how the Earth was destroyed and "Ten million years of planning and work gone..."
"You know," said Arthur thoughtfully, "all this explains a lot of things. All through my life I've had this strange unaccountable feeling that something was going on in the worth, something big, even sinister, and no one would tell me what it was."
"No," said the old man, that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that."
"Everyone?" said Arthur. "Well, if everyone has that perhaps it means something! Perhaps somewhere outside the Universe we know..."
"Maybe. Who cares?" said Slartibartfast
This paranoia that everyone receives in the universe possibly could mean something but who cares? why dwell on the fact that we all receive a constant paranoia. Live life to the fullest in a way. As Zaphod does.
Hey guys, I'm not sure if any of you come on the site anymore but...when are we going to work on the project thing? I leave Wednesday morning for the band trip so that leaves tomorrow and next monday. Any suggestions?
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